USB Music via memory stick and AppleCar Play

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ray.ward
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Post by ray.ward »

Me again.....

I have noticed that the USB media can only be read in the far left front USB A socket.
With this usb socket populated my music works exactly as I want...

However. this now means that I can no longer use Apple CarPlay as this also only works from the far left USB A Socket ?

I know that my USB Music is almost redundant if I leverage Apple CarPlay - but like without everything else in the world I want to have both freely available.

I did look at getting one of the Wireless Adapters, but this again would I assume use the same USB A socket.
Also if I use Bluetooth Phone connection you cant use Apple CarPlay

Any solution
- could I use a USB hub perhaps?
- is there another USB socket I dont know about
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Post by Pogleswood »

There’s a thread about this topic on the American forum, the conclusion a usb splitter won’t work due to the head unit being only able to read one usb source at a time, it being a design limitation of the Hyundai software.
Have you thought of subscribing to a music streaming service, Spotify, Amazon Music & Deezer all work fine with Apple car play & android auto, avoid Tidal though as it’s far too flaky on mobile data,
I’ve used Deezer successfully for 4 years in various vehicles with android auto in the UK & Europe.
Another option is to store the music on your phone this will then be playable whilst using Apple Car Play.
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Pogleswood wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:36 pm There’s a thread about this topic on the American forum, the conclusion a usb splitter won’t work due to the head unit being only able to read one usb source at a time, it being a design limitation of the Hyundai software.
Interesting - you have piqued my interest and turned my universe upside-down :shock:. I'd never heard of 'splitters' (and I'm pretty sure they don't exist in the USB spec!). However, a cursory investigation reveals that the Host will only ever address device at a time, so in theory they could all be dead simple "splitters", simply wiring the devices in parallel. I'm going to have to go do some reading up, to put my mind at rest :D

But going back to the 'thing' I found on Amazon (with no great research; I was sitting in Sainsbury's car park at the time ;) ),

one review says :-
I wanted to plug in two devices into my cars USB and this device is perfect and at a very reasonable cost.
and another says :-
I brought this to use in my van to be able to use android auto along with a USB stick for music but it didn't work so sent it back as it didn't do what was required.
But Amazon has a great returns policy ;)

(It definitely has some active circuitry in it, because one review says
It can give off a burning odour when used for a prolonged period of time.
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I tried a USB hub as I'd have liked to do the same. But, not, the s/w can only read one device at a time. Since the only thing I wanted Android Auto for was Google maps and I find the built in maps work fine, I gave up connecting my phone (I still have a bluetooth connection, of course).
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Splitter wasn’t the best term as this implies separating the data & voltage parts of the usb connection.
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If you had an Android phone then you can essentially use your phone as a the USB stick since they support copying and pasting files directly from a PC.
You'd probably still need to play them through an app on Android auto but it does do away with the faff of having to have everything in iTunes to sync
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Post by Adecastr »

New software update for Tucson's in Europe.

https://update.hyundai.com/EU/E1/update ... iew/Y2SkCi

You can connect Apple CarPlay and Android
Auto wirelessly, without using a USB cable!
Go to [Settings] > [Phone connections] and
press the [Add new] button to connect your
smartphone. Wireless connection is possible
only when both the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
functions of the smartphone are turned On.
When starting the vehicle, the previously
connected device is automatically
connected. To use it, press [Apple CarPlay] or
[Android Auto] in the [Home] menu.
Customers who previously used Apple
CarPlay or Android Auto by using a USB cable
should delete the device information
registered on the smartphone and in the
vehicle and then register again. You can
delete a registered device by pressing the
[Delete devices] button in the [Phone
connections].
Tucson plug-in hybrid, Phantom black color, full options (bought in France).
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Post by Pogleswood »

There’s a thread on the forum about wireless or lack of wireless ACP & AA on Gen5W head unit


I’ve not bothered with the update as I use a Motorola MA1 for wireless Android Auto.

viewtopic.php?t=1306
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Post by D0gma64 »

Adecastr wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:45 pm New software update for Tucson's in Europe.

https://update.hyundai.com/EU/E1/update ... iew/Y2SkCi

You can connect Apple CarPlay and Android
Auto wirelessly, without using a USB cable!
Go to [Settings] > [Phone connections] and
press the [Add new] button to connect your
smartphone. Wireless connection is possible
only when both the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
functions of the smartphone are turned On.
When starting the vehicle, the previously
connected device is automatically
connected. To use it, press [Apple CarPlay] or
[Android Auto] in the [Home] menu.
Customers who previously used Apple
CarPlay or Android Auto by using a USB cable
should delete the device information
registered on the smartphone and in the
vehicle and then register again. You can
delete a registered device by pressing the
[Delete devices] button in the [Phone
connections].
I tried the update on my 2021 Tucson, and couldnt get AA to work wirelessly :cry: Has it worked for anyone?
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