UK House Charging Cable for 3 Pin House socket

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Tiggy777
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Post by Tiggy777 »

Hi all

I wondered if anyone could please help me.

I have just picked up a second hand Tucson and I thought it would come with a charging cable so I could charge from my house (it didn't)

I am finding it hard to find the correct spec. I think it should be

Type 2

but I am not sure how the amps work as most chargers states 6 / 8 / 10 /13 amps where as the manual states up to 12 maps which I presume is the fastest ?

Great if someone could please push me in the right direction.

Many thanks for any help, comments or advice.

Thank you for your time

Regards

Tiggy
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Post by Indalo »

Tiggy777 wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 1:34 pm Great if someone could please push me in the right direction.
Welcome to the forum, ’Tiggy777’.

I’d guess that, like me, other readers of these pages will be wondering why you bought a car without a charging cable or cables. You haven’t given any reason for the absence of such an important and integral part of the car but as the car cannot work optimally without the means to charge from the grid, why not return to the seller and ask about it?

I’m sure if you are unable to locate the correct cable, one of our converts to cable-charged propulsion will provide the details you need.

..........and a gentle correction, if I may. it’s ’Tucson’ and not ’Tuscan’. The car is named after a city in Arizona while the other is a native of a region of Italy.🙂
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Post by Tiggy777 »

Just to confirm I didn't buy the car without a charging cable. It was supplied with a 7KW charging cable.

However as a back up I thought I would like to use a 3 pin plug (UK)....when visiting friends rather than me ask them to install a AC EV charger at their house just for me ! :)
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Post by Tiggy777 »

Morning all

So been looking on line for 3 pin charger cables and most offer 6 / 8 / 10 / 12 amp charging.

Reading in the instruction book I think the charger needed is 12 amps.

So should I charger at the lower rate of 10 amps as I am concerned about possible damage ?

Great for any comments please.

Thank you

Tiggy
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Post by David3 »

Hi we bought one off Amazon about £140 probably a little more expensive now though, I charge at 13amps ( qué the no that's wrong you'll burn you're house down) through a timed socket as we have 4 hrs cheap rate from 12.35am through octopus energy, the reason for the timed socket is because the scheduled charging on the Tucson is unreliable and doesn't charge when you want it to
Hope this helps

David
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Post by Berty »

Tiggy777,

I have the OEM Granny Charger from Hyundai, In Ireland we are given the Granny Cable by default and not the Type 2 cable which appears to be the opposite in the UK and you get the cable and not the granny charger.

Anyway, the OEM charges by default at 8amps but you can switch it to 6amps or a max of 10amps. Again, that is the OEM. If you can get a higher rated one it would charge faster but you just need to consider the outlet you're plugging it into, can it deliver that charge consistently. Before I had the Wallbox Plus charger installed in my house I had a local electrician install an outside socket for me which was connected to an internal double socket. If I was using the internal socket for vairious items such as TV, Sky Box, etc etc and also pulling a charge from the outside socket then you might risk overloading the fuse. I am not a sparks so just speaking or "theoritically".

The car itself can take in a max load of around 7.4kw which is a lot more than 10/12/16 amps anyway but again can the socket/fuse handle it?

At 10amps from empty my PHEV would take around 7 hours to charge as the screen would show a max of around 2.1kw per hour and the car is 14.8kw of a battery capacitiy. If you can push 16amps into it maybe that would get down to 5hours I don't know. My car is charging right now and pulling 7.3kw and was around 35% when I plugged it in and that will take just over an hour to charge back up.
Based in Ireland :mrgreen:
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Post by Beards »

Berty has it spot on…. My only issue with the OEM Granny Charger is its length. As such I bought a great Granny Cable from Amazon which can charge at anything from 6A to 13A. A bonus is this cable also incorporates RCD protection. I have mine set at 10A and use a Tapo P110M to turn on power to the Granny cable.
The Granny cable from Amazon:- Third Rock Energy Type 2 Charging Cable 3 Pin - 10M - 6/8/10/13A Variable - EV Charger with Type B RCD Protection - UK Tested - Waterproof IP67-12Hr Delay - FREE Bag (3kW/10M) Cost was £199 but I can assure you it is well worth it.
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Post by Tiggy777 »

So many thanks to David3, Berty and Beards for taking to time to post your very helpful and informative replies and advice. It certainly helped me to go in the right direction and to understand a bit more on the topic.

Many thanks again and very best wishes to the 3 of you.

Regards

Tiggy
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Post by Tiggy777 »

I am looking at Amazon and there is such a choice of charging cables with a 3 pin plug. Just wondered are they all basically the same or would anyone recommend a particular make / model ?

Looking at the 1) Third Rock recommended by Beards and also the 2) EVDANCE EV Charger Type 2 UK 3 Pin 20ft/6.1m [6/8/10/13A]

Regards

Tiggy
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Post by Beards »

It depends what you are looking for Tiggy.
The second one you mention is basically the same as most others at 6meters.
The first one I mentioned I preferred for a number of reasons.
1. It’s 10 meters which is ideal if you are somewhere and the mains 3-pin is not near by (do not use an extension cable with a granny Charge Cable, that is paramount).
2. It’s RCD protection is an added safety feature ideal if you leave the vehicle charging in a place you are not certain of the voltage being steady.
3. Construction is bang on… I can vouch for that. So many others are cheap knockoff’s.
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Refused: 08 Mar 2023
New Order: 08 Mar 2023
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