Handbreak Fault

[pharaoh]

I’m sure you said that you were not being pedantic...... Well you are!

If you say so, but if I see information posted that is erroneous, then I think people have a right to know that.

Your ‘procedure’ entails performing an action which is counter-intuitive on entering a Tucson equipped with Autohold and EPB, intending to drive off or reverse the car.

To you maybe.

This is my point: Why would anyone intending to drive wish to manually release the EPB while not wearing a seat belt? Surely, if there is an intention to drive anywhere, then 'clunk-click every trip’, as the monster said, must be the mindset before doing anything else? While I’m sure we could all imagine one scenario or another where it might....just possibly......be of some benefit to shift the car without buckling up, but only after performing the counter-intuitive action you describe, but why bother?

And here's my point; There are circumstances where this knowledge is useful regardless of the fact you may not have experienced them.
Firstly, needing to move the car from one place to another on your own property, this 'procedure' negates the need to plug in the seat belt just to perform a quick manouevre.
Secondly, and relevant to me in the past when I used to own a caravan; During the hitching up procedure, being able shunt the car about without the need to plug in the seat belt every time you need to get in and out of the car to check your position relative to the caravan towbar is definitely an advantage.

t seems that there are some people who just have to find reasons to downplay or condemn the Autohold and EPB features

If this remark is pointed at me then you couldn't be more wrong ! In normal everyday driving, I perform the same functions that you do before driving off. Much as I could be called 'old school' and I do dislike some of the modern electronic aids, or at least the way they function, Autohold is not one of them and I use it every trip and why people don't is beyond me. Now, Lane Assist is a different matter and that gets turned off every trip as I've experienced circumstances where it's positively dangerous.

I don’t wish to become embroiled in an argument but the statement you refer to is perfectly correct

Well you obviously do and the statement you made was not perfectly correct as I'm sure you now know.

[pharaoh]

I applaud the advancement of car technology in 'most' cases. What worries me though is the neutralising of the car driver.
We could all see the autonomously driven car coming years ago. But, I take pride in my driving management & hope every other driver around me has the necessary skills to achieve the same. We all know this ISN'T the case on today's roads.
But, commonsense MUST prevail if you want to move a vehicle 2 foot, or drive without a nagging steering correction on a clear open winding country road, or remembering to turn on headlights in the Rain & sleet, or reversing out of a slot without bothering to look, or leave a child on the back seat, or open a door without looking, or take a break & a coffee when feeling tired etc.
Cars are becoming more technically advanced than a large section of those with driving licences from what I can see on the roads.
It worries me greatly that I will eventually meet the driver solely relying on car technology & not prerequisite commonsense to drive properly.
Fortunately, most current tech is available 'if required' & can be muted. How long will it be before it can't be, and commonsense evaporates?
Not too long in my estimation

Very nicely put and aligns with my thinking also.

[pharaoh]

My apologies to JonHurry the OP, because as is often the case on forums this subject has veered off course a little

[Deleted User 1326]

I am perfectly content with the validity of the statements I have made in relation to this thread. If someone wishes to claim some perceived moral high ground by challenging my statement as if to suggest that he alone is the only Tucson owner who has discovered that it is possible to release the EPB by a downward press on the button while not being buckled up in his seat belt, and in so doing removes the issue from the context in which my comment was made, addressing a narrow type of usage that few owners will need in most day-to-day driving, then I have nothing further to add to this thread.

[JonHurry]

What did it hit and how far did it roll? That's a lot of damage,

A brick retaining wall and probably about 15/20 metres

[JonHurry]

My apologies to JonHurry the OP, because as is often the case on forums this subject has veered off course a little

Ha ha thanks. Well, I guess I’m screwed and have to accept that a 4 month old car doesn’t hold on a handbreak! Hopefully the insurance covers what I owe but I’m not hopeful!

[kassy64]

Good luck with getting it sorted. Let us know the outcome. Not going to help now I know, but when I was learning to drive many years ago back in 1980, my instructor always told me to leave the car in gear, 1st if facing uphill and reverse if pointing downhill and to aim the front wheels towards kerb slightly if possible. It’s something that has stuck with me for over 44 years. As I said good luck with your insurance company.

[Deleted User 1326]

good luck with your insurance company.

I echo the comment from ‘kassy64’ as my experience, having had my previous car badly damaged twice while parked and unattended, was the most egregious matter to affect me personally since the collapse of my (then) insurer, ‘Irish-American’ in the 1960s. I got sweet FA in any form of compensation from that situation and I’m not sure if the word ‘Ombudsman’ even existed in regard to the world of car insurance back then.

As far as I’m concerned they are a bunch of tax-dodging shysters, inventing ‘rules’ that appear unchallengeable, such as the ‘Fault Claim’ appendage that they use to punish claimants via an increase in premiums over subsequent years, even when the owner was hundreds of miles away at the time of an incident.

I sincerely hope you have better luck than me!

[r0n]

Ha ha thanks. Well, I guess I’m screwed and have to accept that a 4 month old car doesn’t hold on a handbreak! Hopefully the insurance covers what I owe but I’m not hopeful!

Check your policy and you might find your cover will get you a brand new replacement if your new car is written off within a certain period of time , I haven't checked the policy I currently have but I know previous policies I had used to do this.

If your policy doesn't cover a new car and if you don't have GAP insurance you may unfortunately be in for an unpleasant surprise as to how much your car is worth,

If you still think you're in the right WRT to the EPB there are other forums you can check in on, there's a Tucson forum for the USA , there's motoring forums ( Honest John website has a motoring forum for instance ) and there's consumer forums ( Money Saving Expert web site has a motoring forum for instance ) .

I would also read the relevant section of your owners manual in respect of the Electronic Parking Brake and it's operation which might help you.

[Saltcreek]

As already stated, I am satisfied I have engaged the break as the car did not roll as I was getting out of the vehicle and I have ring door bell footage showing the car rolling about an hour later.

I appreciate peoples advice on leaving in gear etc but this isn’t something I have ever needed to do in the past with any other vehicle. I am merely trying to see if anyone is aware of a similar fault as this will add weight to my claim.

Thanks

This is not proof of you engaging the brake, it just shows at the time that the vehicle didn’t move.

I would check to see if there is an event log in the computer which may track such things. If there is no event log then the only way you could prove the brake has failed is if there is some sort of mechanical evidence.